Modi responded by claiming India will become the world’s third-largest economy. When can india achieve that?
Viewpoint 1:
Everyone, list Indian brand products you’ve encountered. [Curious]
Reply 1.1: Win11 [Surprised]
Reply 1.2: Land Rover [Cool]
Reply 1.3: Aphrodisiac oil [Facepalm]
Reply 1.4: BYD U9 (India claims it’s their national product) [Angry]
Reply 1.5: Indian Masala
Viewpoint 2:
India has zero credibility in my book [Surprised]
- Inflated manufacturing share: Official claims of 12.6% manufacturing growth contradict a mere 3.1% rise in industrial electricity consumption. Manufacturing’s actual GDP share fell to 12.84% (lowest since 1960), far below the “Make in India” target.
- Poverty masked: 1 billion people earn less than $2/day; after food expenses, 100 million of 150 million households have under $6 left—contradicting official “growth miracle” narratives.
- GDP overstatement exposed: Former Chief Economic Adviser Arvind Subramanian revealed India’s 2011–2017 GDP growth was inflated by 2.5 percentage points. Actual GDP was $2.5 trillion (vs. official $3.5T), with real growth ~2% (vs. official 6%).
- Cow dung counted in GDP: Since 2015, Modi’s government classifies dried cow dung as “biomass energy” under agricultural output. In 2023 alone, $2B worth of cow dung cakes entered GDP.
- Exaggerated informal economy: Slum tin shacks valued as luxury apartments for rent estimates; street tea stall incomes extrapolated from e-commerce data; black market transactions make up 29.7% of GDP.
- Double-counting & data manipulation: Local governments count bidirectional highways as two separate roads to inflate infrastructure data; inflation directly counted as economic growth (e.g., 6% price rise reported as 6% GDP growth).
Viewpoint 3:
But looking at GDP, Modi isn’t wrong—India should surpass Japan this year or come infinitely close. As for Germany, GDP won’t magically jump to $8T; both hover between $4–5T, so India can easily overtake them. However, being “world No.3” means little if it can’t widen the gap with Japan/Germany. How big a gap? Doubling their GDP to $9T would be ideal, but India is far from that. India is only a superpower in population size. It has achieved titles like “aircraft carrier power,” “nuclear power,” “space power,” “auto manufacturing power,” “college graduate power,” and “infrastructure power” by sheer scale—but still lags far behind China and the U.S. India’s path is long. It’s also a superpower with rapidly declining fertility. Even if it takes over China’s labor-intensive manufacturing, it will eventually face the same super-aging, ultra-low-birthrate crisis. India’s future is likely less rosy than Modi claims.
Viewpoint 4:
Germany/Japan and India are nothing alike. Germany/Japan have advanced industries; India’s GDP is purely population-driven—and that’s ignoring its GDP accounting tricks.
Viewpoint 5:
The last economy to enter the top ranks just by population was the Qing Dynasty [Surprised][Surprised][Surprised].
Viewpoint 6:
India has its advantages. It is and will remain China’s primary economic competitor. If China’s economy can’t shift from manufacturing for others to being consumption-driven, we might lose to India.
Viewpoint 7:
Turning India’s population into a demographic dividend requires a long journey: a pragmatic government, revolutionary reforms to break vested interests, a national language to bridge communication gaps, improved social status for lower castes (the majority), enhanced education, a stable foreign investment environment (no short-sighted “burning bridges after crossing” or “killing the goose that lays golden eggs”), and a culture of hard work. It must also race against China’s smart manufacturing—if China automates labor-intensive industries first, India’s window slams shut.
Viewpoint 8:
No deep analysis—just a quip: Trump: “I win against everyone.” China: “Don’t win against me—go win somewhere else.” Trump: “Fine, I win against everyone except you.” India: “If China can do it, so can I!” Trump: “The hell you can.” That’s about it.
Viewpoint 9:
Whatever India’s problems, its willingness to cooperate with Russia despite U.S. pressure makes it a truly independent nation.
Viewpoint 10:
I’ll never forget Modi attending that Indian billionaire’s wedding. A country like this has no future.
Viewpoint 11:
India’s hype is real, but industrial relocation is happening. Within 5 years, India could produce phone makers like Oppo, Vivo, or Xiaomi [Laughs], then enter smart appliances. It’s becoming a real threat.
Viewpoint 12:
India’s stock market-to-GDP ratio is 134%, but at least 20% of its GDP is inflated water. Its economic structure resembles the U.S., not Japan/Germany.
Viewpoint 13:
Modi’s government promised India would be a superpower by 2020. In 2020, Bharat duly became a superpower.
Viewpoint 14:
“Budget commitments at 57% of GDP”?? Meaning government spending is triple its revenue? A >200% annual fiscal deficit? Is this bankruptcy or prep for world war?
Viewpoint 15:
Investment, consumption, exports—India excels at none. Yet it’s “world No.3”? What’s the point of this self-delusion? No manufacturing, no cutting-edge innovation, not even reliable domestic investment data. Pure cope.
Viewpoint 16:
Indians should troll Trump in their own style instead of arguing online. For example: many Indians live in the U.S.—get them to collectively shit on the White House lawn or at the Pentagon. They’re experts at that, and it’s very on-brand. Haha!
Viewpoint 17:
Even if India ranks No.3 by GDP, inflated numbers ≠ No.3 in comprehensive national power. In a mid-to-large-scale war, it would collapse instantly. Turning GDP into real strength is harder than inflating numbers.
Viewpoint 18:
Post-defeat, every step is a crime. After the 2019 Balakot airstrike (Note: likely referring to India-Pakistan skirmish), one commentator noted that losing wasn’t just about fighter jets—it triggered political collapse. Similarly, 130 years ago, China’s Qing Dynasty (a vast, populous, “strong” economy) lost a naval war to tiny, resource-poor Japan due to hidden tech gaps (warships). That defeat led to invasion 5 years later, regime collapse in 13 years, and 50 years of humiliation. India’s defeat won’t be as dire, but the “Quad” (US-Japan-Australia-India) alliance is dead, and its economic path just got rockier.
Viewpoint 19:
Modi’s TV address: “A glorious superpower has appeared on Bharat’s horizon…” A Dalit asked his son what “horizon” meant. The son replied: “It’s a line you see but can never reach.”
Viewpoint 20:
Trump isn’t wrong—India’s economy is dying. Foreign investment nosedived by 99% this year due to Modi’s policies, which rob foreign investors like bandits. Hot money is fleeing. “Made in India” is synonymous with shoddy quality: over half of Apple’s India-made phones failed in 2023, causing massive returns. Cook furiously dismantled the factory and moved production back to Zhengzhou. Boeing’s Indian-made parts caused frequent crashes—new planes are often defective. Finally, Indian immigrants face rejection in Anglosphere nations, becoming a liability. This is the real collapse of “Made in India.”
